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Deobandi says: “How Barelwis Outright Lie”
February 29, 2012
A good example of how Barelwis lie and distort is this Barelwi link:
http://salafiaqeedah.blogspot.in/2011/06/conversation-between-mr-h-and-mr-y-part.html
A quote that I came across:
Ismail Dehlavi said, “A Deobandi Maulvi was given a bath by Hazrat Ali and his clothes were changed by Hazrat Fatimah.” (Siraat-e-Mustaqeem Urdu page 280).
Shah Isma’il died in 1831. The university of Deoband was established only in 1867.
About which “Deobandi molwi” is this person talking about?
*Nowhere is this mentioned in the text."
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^Reply:
Look
the devil is
hiding here in .[RED].
Quote:
“ Mufti Ilahi Bakhsh later wrote a book in the Persian language on the tariqah and adhkar of Sayyid Ahmad Shahid, which was an abridgement of Mawlana ‘Abd al-Hayy Budhianwi and Shah Isma’il Shahid’s Sirat-e-Mustaqim with some additions (may Allah shower His mercy upon all those mentioned above).
Please see: Karwan-e-Iman wa ‘Azimat (Karachi: Majlis Nashriyat-e-Islam,) p. 83-84, by Mawlana Sayyid Abu ‘l-Hasan ‘Ali Nadwi. Here
and here:
Biographies of Scholars February 26, 2013
The Valiant Imam: Sayyid Imam Ahmad ibn ‘Irfan al-Barelwi
by Mawlana ‘Abd al-Hayy al-Hasani
Translated by Zameelur Rahman
“The sayyid, the valiant Imam, the proof of Allah amongst creation, the elucidator of the straight path of religion and Islam, the suppressor of disbelievers and heretics, a model of the righteous caliphs and the guided Imams, our master, the Imam, the warrior (mujahid), the martyr, the fortunate, Ahmad ibn ‘Irfan ibn Nur al-Sharif al-Hasani al-Barelwi.”
“ He was born on Safar of 1201 H (1786 CE) in the city of Rae Bareli at the Zawiyah of his ancestor Sayyid ‘Alam Allah al-Naqshbandi al-Barelwi.
“He sent the aforementioned Shaykh Isma‘il and Shaykh ‘Abd al-Hayy to many cities to counsel and guide, so they toured the cities and Allah guided by means of them a great multitude of the servants.
“ He revived many dead sunnahs, and he brought to death many polytheistic and innovated practices.
Hence, the enemies of Allah and His Messenger became extremely bigoted towards him and his followers until they attributed his path to Shaykh Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhab al-Najdi and called them “Wahhabis,” and turned to the disbelievers [for support against him] and became their allies in secret, until they betrayed him in the battle of Balakot.
" Many of his disciples compiled detailed books on his states and stations. From them is al-Sirat al-Mustaqim in Persian by both Shaykh Isma‘il and Shaykh ‘Abd al-Hayy, and the aforementioned Shaykh ‘Abd al-Hayy translated it to Arabic while in the Hijaz for the benefit of the people of the two noble Sanctuaries.
"From them is al-Mulhimat al-Ahmadiyya by Mufti Ilahi Bakhsh al-Kandehlewi in which he sufficed with what reached him from him [i.e. Sayyid Ahmad] of litanies (adhkar) and practices (ashghal)."
Nuzhat al-Khawatir, pp. 899-901 Here [End of Quote]
----------------------------------------Your so called : "sayyid" was a Wahhabi (influenced) your Deobandi akabir (elders) whom you have now forgotten... More info Here : Do not forget to Read @ bottom of page!
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“ ...The
Deobandi "Faction" means: Wahhabi (Najdi) in aqidah
When
we say: Your: "maulvi/molwi" we mean your:
akabir/elder/scholar/imam/teacher:
Named: (Syed Ahmed Barelvi)
("sayyid") was given bath by Hazrat Ali and Hazrat Fatima
covered him with clothes.” (Astaghfirullah)
scan:
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Note: your ^forefather - was Wahhabi in Aqidah which influenced and wholeheartedly accepted by your akabir/elders at the time, if it were not for this (New Evil innovation/Bidah):by the Najdi Da'wah there would not have been a university of Deoband (sect) in 1867CE in India. Read here:
(THE RISE OF WAHHABI FITNAH INDIAN SUBCONTINENT DISSENT FROM THE ORIGINAL CREED: PART2-PART3-PART4 and also what you-today forget to mention: THE WAHHABI CONNECTION)
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Quote:
Deobandi said: " The list goes on and the Barelwi fabricates quotes or brings them out of context such as “The Prophet is only respected as an elder brother/Prophets are useless”
Most of their silly points have been already refuted here:http://barelwism.wordpress.com/category/shah-ismail/
The Barelwi adds, misstate, falsify, distorts and fabricates quotes endlessly. Too bad they don’t have the academic integrity to be honest in their refutations.” [end of quote]
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^Reply:
Deobandi Fabrication of Al-Qawl al-Badi
https://www.islamieducation.com/deobandi-fabrication-in-al-qawl-al-badi/
Deobandi Fabrication in Nashr ut Teeb
https://www.islamieducation.com/deobandi-fabrication-in-nashr-ut-teeb/
Deobandi Fabrication in Madarajun Nabuwat
https://www.islamieducation.com/deobandi-fabrication-in-madarajun-nabuwat/
many more search on line!
Deobandi Fabrication on Kissing Thumbs: Here
Fabrication in Al-Tafhimat al-Ilahiyyah of Shah Waliullah Dahlawi (d.1762AD) Here
How about These ^Fabrications?
Also Note: the editing of the books of your own akabirs Kuffer - changed/edited later in the new editions/versions with fabrications are endless!
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Regarding:
"quotes/out of context":
Your
Deobandi akabir said:
"The Prophet is only respected as an elder brother"
Here:
Original Scans of Wahhabi/Deobandi
Elders (akabir) books/writings:
Deobandi Akabir Books Available: Here
1-Fatawa Rashidiyah, Vol: 1.page, 19 (Fatawa -e- Rasheedyah by Rasheed Ahmad Gangohi)
2-Tafsir Bulghatul Hayieraan, page, 157/158 (Bulghatul Hairan by Husain Ali Wan Bhachrani Here )
3-Barhareen e Qaatiah (Barahin-e-Qatiyah by Khalil Ahmad Ambetwi Here)
4-Barhareen e Qaatiah, (Barahin-e-Qatiyah )page, 51
5-Hifzul Imaan (Hifzul Ieemaan) page,7 (Hifzul Iman by Ashraf Ali Thanvi Here)
6-Siraat e Mustaqeem, page, 86/87 (Sirate Mustaqeem by Shah Ismail Dehalvi Here)
7-Fatawa Rashidiyah, Vol: 2, page, 12
8-Tahzeerun Naas, page,3 and 25 (Tahzeer Un Nas by Muhammad Qasim Nanotvi Here)
9-Baraaheen-e- Qaatiah, page, 26
10-Taqwiyatul Ieemaan, page, 58 (Taqwiyat-ul-Iman by Shah Ismail Dehalvi Here)
11-Book Taqwitul Imaan (Taqwiyatul Ieeman)
12-Taqwiyatul Ieeman page,59
13-Taqwiyatul Ieeman page,29
14-Tasfiyatul Aqaaid, page,25
15-Taqwiyatul Ieeman, page,35
16-Taqwiyatul Ieeman, page,24
17-Taqwiyatul Ieeman, page,14
18-Tafsir Bulghatul Haieraan, page,43
19-Taqwiyatul Ieeman, page,61
20-Taqwiyatul Ieeman, page,41
21- Taqwiyatul Ieeman, page,55
22-Tahzeerun Naas, page, 5
23-Bulghatul Haieraan,page,8
24-Risalah Al Imdad,page,35
25-Fatawa Milad Shreef page,8 - Baraaheen-e- Qaatiah, page,148
26-Aabe Hayaat,page,169 (Dajjal)
27- Taqwiyatul Ieeman, page,56
28- Taqwiyatul Ieeman, page,14
29- Taqwiyatul Ieeman, page,54
30- Baraaheen-e- Qaatiah, page,3 (Prophet/brother)
31- Taqwiyatul Ieeman, page,7/27 (abu Jahal)
32-Darud Taj -Fatwa
33-Saiyyid Ahmad of Raae Bareilly (Bathed) Siraat e Mustaqeem
34- Fatawa Rashidiyah (Milad and 11 Giyaarveen Shareef)
35-Eating Crow-Fatwa
36-Calling upon Awliyah (friends) of Allah-Fatwa
37- Funeral prayers-Fatwa
38-Food distributed (Faatihah/Naiyaaz)-Fatwa
39-Eating Food-Fatwa
40-Drinking water- (Hindu/Money/Interest)-Fatwa
15 Nov 2018
How Deobandis Outright Lie
^The Deobandi apologists have admitted to the gross mistake of confusing al-Muhaddith al-Akbar Imam Badr al-Din al-Hasani with a 'Badr al-Din al-Halabi'.
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However, in finding a moral compass and doing 'the right thing', they have in fact conceded that they agree with the contents of al-Halabi's work (as they brought it as some sort of proof against 'Barelvis').
If they claim that they do not, they must admit that they are victim to the illness of blind conformity of their elders and their teachings - such that they indiscriminately seek works and present them as proof against anyone who holds an opinion contrary to the school of Deoband.
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Which will it be?
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In a fleeting glance over some pages of the book, we find Halabi saying:
1. ALL of the books of theology mix Islam with 'Kufr'
2. ALL of the books of theology are evil
3. The authors of such works regret writing them and repent from them
4. Virtually giving superiority to the Khawarij over the Ulama of Kalam, for the former's mistakes were based on misunderstandings of textual evidences; whereas the latter erred in rational proofs
5. Accusing the scholars of old of being influenced by the Mu'tazilis
6. Accusing the scholars of kalam of writing their works for worldly gains
7. Labelling Imam al-Sharqawi, Imam al-Sawi and 'others like them': 'weak minded Egyptians.'
8. Claiming Kalam and Tasawwuf have squandered Islam
See pg.49-55 of the Matba' al-S'adah edition of 'Al T'alim wal Irshad'
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The entire citation that forms the body of the article is from a work entitled 'Al-T'alim wal Irshad' by Badr al-Din *al-Halabi* (not al-Hasani), who passed away 1943. Though little is known about al-Halabi other than sparing accounts about his academic career and achievements as a linguist, a quick perusal through the work cited in the article shows clear Salafi inclinations and a generally derisive attitude towards the efforts of Sunni Ashari Ulama. For example, he says:
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It should be noted, this work is also cited by Shukri Alusi in his vitriolic work against Imam Yusuf al-Nabahani, 'Ghayat al-Amani'; a tripe of a refutation unsurprisingly discontent with established Sunni beliefs and practices.
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Imam Badr al-Din *al-Hasani* is the Damascene Sunni Imam of the past century who is universally celebrated for his efforts for this Ummah and his love for the Messenger of Allah ﷺ. Accounts of his life are easily accessible online in Arabic & English.
Interestingly, it was Imam Badr al-Din al-Hasani who ordered his student, Shaykh Mahmud al-Attar to write a refutation of Rashid Gangohi with respects to the latter's position on Qiyam. This work concludes with an attestation by Imam Yusuf al-Nabahani who does not spare his words in condemnation of Gangohi and his ilk.
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Wires crossed?
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Muhammad Danyaal
(Edited by ADHM)
