The Forbidden Kingdom
Volume 2, Book 17, Number 147:
Narrated Ibn 'Umar: "O Allah! Bless our Sham and our Yemen." People said, "Our Najd as well."
The
Prophet again said, "O
Allah! Bless our Sham and Yemen."
They
said again, "Our Najd as
well."
On
that the Prophet said, "There
will appear earthquakes and afflictions, and
from there will come
out the side of
the head of Satan."
Wahhabis say: "we find that this Hadeith does not refer to the Najd (Riyadh) that is famously known in Saudi today, but rather it refers to Iraq".
But look at the given map if we see the East from Madina then where Najd is?
To
believe that Najd is not
in Iraq but in fact in Saudi Arabia. Using
their simplistic methodology of “only” Quran & Sunnah, this
post will show how relying solely on hadith from Sahih Bukhari and
Muslim, one has no choice but to accept that Najd is
not in Iraq.
First of all, for those who are unaware of the
subject matter , I would like to give you a little background as to
why we should even bother debating this issue.
The following hadith is from Sahih Bukhari: Narrated ‘Abdullah bin Dinar: Ibn ‘Umar said, “The Prophet fixed Qarn as the Miqat (for assuming the Ihram) for the people of Najd, and Al-Juhfa for the people of Sham, and Dhul-Hulaifa for the people of Medina.”
Ibn ‘Umar added, “I heard this from the Prophet, and I have been informed that the Prophet said, ‘The Miqat for the Yemenites is Yalamlam.’ “When Iraq was mentioned, he said, “At that time it was not a Muslim country.” [Sahih Bukhari Volume 9, Book 92, Number 443]
Abu
Zubair heard Jabir b. ‘Abdullah (Allah
be pleased with them) as saying as he was asked about (the place for
entering upon the) state of Ihram:
I
heard (and I think he carried it directly to the Apostle of Allah )
him saying:
For the people of
Medina Dhu’l-Hulaifa is
the place for entering upon the state of Ihram, and for (the people
coming through the other way, i. e. Syria)
it is Juhfa;
for the people of Iraq it
is Dbat al-’Irq;
for the people of Najd it is
Qarn (al-Manazil) and for the
people of Yemen it is Yalamlam. [Sahih
Muslim: Book 007, Number 2666]
Therefore , there should be no doubt that in fact Najd and Iraq are two different places, and not one and the same, as the Wahhabiyyah Najdi pseudo-salafis would have you believe.
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'This
is the Centre of Kufr from where
the Horn
of Shaitaan will Rise'
From Aishah, The Holy Prophet(s) said: The Hajj Miqat (the place) for Madinah is in Dhul Hulaifah, Sham and Egypt in Juhfah, Iraq in Dhati Irq, and Najd in Qarn, and Yaman in Yalamlam.” [Shahih Sunan Nasa’i ,No. 2656]
Unarguable proof that the Prophet (s) distinguished between Najd and Iraq, so much so that he appointed two separate Miqat points for the inhabitants of each. For him, clearly, Najd did not include Iraq.
Madinah East = Najd/Riyadh
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Wahhabi/Salafi say:
Wahhabi/Salafi claim that Najd means Iraq in the terminology of the hadith but this is incorrect.
Al-Nawawi said: "Najd is the area that lies between Jurâsh (in Yemen) all the way to the rural outskirts of Kûfâ (in Iraq), and its Western border is the Hijaz. The author of al-Matali` said: Najd is all a province of al-Yamama."
Al-Fayruzabadi said: "Its geographical summit is Tihama and Yemen, its bottom is Iraq and Shâm, and it begins at Dhatu `Irqin from the side of the Hijaz."
Al-Khattabi said: "Najd lies Eastward, and to those who are in Madina, their Najd is the desert of Iraq and its vicinities, which all lie East of the people of Madina.
The original meaning of najd is `elevated land' as opposed to ghawr which means declivity. Thus, Tihama is all part of al-Ghawr, and Mecca is part of Tihama."
This is confirmed by Ibn al-Athir's definition: "Najd is any elevated terrain, and it is a specific name for what lies outside the Hijaz and adjacent to Iraq."
Similarly al-Dawudi said: "Najd lies in the vicinity of Iraq."
Iraq
itself lexicaly means river-shore or sea-shore, in reference to the
Euphrates and the Tigris.
In other words, Najd is the mountainous area East of the Hijaz, bordering it and Iraq at the same time and actually separating them.
This is confirmed by the verse of the poet `Awamm ibn al-Asbagh: "Next to Batni Nakhlin there is a mountain called the Black One: One half of it is Hijazi, another half Najdi."
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Further confirmation:
Merits
of al-Sham al-Sharif
Forty Narrations on The Immense Merits of
al-Shâm
Compiled
and Translated by GF Haddad
Even the briefest glimpse at a modern atlas will show that a straight line drawn to the east of al-Madina al-Munawwara does not pass anywhere near Iraq, but passes some distance to the south of Riyadh; that is to say, through the exact centre of Najd. The hadiths which speak of ‘the East’ in this context hence support the view that Najd is indicated, not Iraq.
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Also spelled Nejd, region, central Saudi Arabia, comprising a mainly rocky plateau sloping eastward from the mountains of the Hejaz. On the northern, eastern, and southern sides, it is bounded by the sand deserts of an-Nafud, ad-Dahna', and the Rub' al-Khali. It is sparsely settled, except for the fertile oases strung along the escarpment of Jabal (mountains) Tuwayq and the al-'Aramah plateau… http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9054702/Najd
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The Messenger says ‘You lie!’ to a man who praises Najd. Nowhere does he extol Najd - quite the contrary. But other hadiths in praise of other lands abound.
(Muslim Shareef Vol. ii, PP. 1394)
Puncturing the Devil's Dream About the Hadiths of Najd and Tamim
Sham ,Yeman and the Evil from Najad
Note: look at the hypocrisy/dishonesty of Wahabi's they even didn't name any of province of modern Saudi Arabia as Najd out of 13 provinces, when they Firstly captured the Najd, their 1st state was Najd, their King, first took the title as the King of Najd (Sultan of Najd) in Jan, 1927 (check 3rd source in finding of Najd).
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Quote: On
January 10, 1926 Abdul-Aziz declared
himself King of the Hejaz and,
then, on January
27, 1927 he
took the title King
of Nejd (his
previous title was Sultan). By the Treaty
of Jeddah,
signed on May 20, 1927, the United
Kingdom recognized
the independence of Abdul-Aziz's realm
(then known as the Kingdom of Hejaz and Nejd).[8][13]
Najd has the same latitue of Madinah (24° North). While Iraq’s latitude is 32° North. 8° North of Madinah. The Sun’s maximum latitude is 23.5° North. After that, going to south again. The Sun will never go to 32° North as in Iraq.
The coordinates of Medinah is 2433N 03942E.
Najd/Riyadh is 2443N 04644E
Notice almost the same latitude of Najd/Riyadh and Medinah - i.e. 24xx.
The latitude of the towns in Iraq are 3040N (Basrah) and 3340N (Baghad).
Therefore Iraq is North or North-North East of Medinah rather East
From Ibn Umar that he said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah(s), saying while facing the east:
“Indeed Afflictions are there, from where appears the Horn of Satan.”
[Shahih Muslim No.5167]
The Prophet(s) did the Dawn Prayer and gave salute and facing toward the SUN RISE and said: “Fitnah will come from here. Fitnah will come from here from the horn of Satan” [Musnad Ahmad 2/72 no 5410 shahih]
Najd which
have the same latitude of Madinah (24°
North). While Iraq’s latitude is 32°
North.
8° North of Madinah.
The Sun’s maximum
latitude is 23.5° North. After that, going to south
again.
The Sun will
never go to 32° North as in Iraq.
From Madinah, the Sun Rise from Najd direction. Not from Iraq!
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1.
Qarnul Manazil : This miqat is a hilly place about 94 kilometers to the east of Makkah. This is the miqat for the people of Nejd, Kuwait and for those flying through the air space of that direction. This include those coming fro Malaysia, Indonesia, Brunei and the surrounding areas.
Dhatu ‘Irqin : This miqat is about 94 kilometers towards the northeast side of Makkah. This is the miqat for the people of Iran, Iraq and for those coming from that direction.
Qarn Al-Manazil (Al-Sayl Al-Kabir): It is the prescribed Miqat for the people of Najd and the people of east and those who travel via their route.
Dhat `Irq: It is the prescribed Miqat for the people of Iraq and those who travel via their route.
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Those who are intelligent did you
Note these points:
Point proven from Marfu Hadiths of
Prophet (Peace be upon him)
The hadiths having word Iraq are Shaadh (odd), also the "MAWQUF" hadith from Ibn Umar (ra) cannot work in front of these glaring Marfu Hadiths
1. Our Prophet (Peace be upon him) made different Miqaat for people coming from Iraq and those coming from Najd (Sahih Muslim # 2810, Sunnan Nasai'i #2657۔ Sahih).
Hence it is established that Najd and Iraq in sight of Prophet(s) were different places.
2. The Prophet (Peace be upon him) pointed towards "FROM WHERE SUN RISES" (Musnad Ahmad 2/72 # 5410, Arabic version published by Mossasat al Qurtuba, Qahira. Hadith is Strong).
In Madina the sun never rises from the side of Iraq.
3. The Prophet (Peace be upon him) pointed towards the Hujra of Sayyidah Aisha (Bukhari # 3104).
This also proves that pointing towards Aisha's house from pulpit cannot possibly be towards Iraq.
4. The Prophet said: The horns of Satan will emerge from Rabi'a and Mudar (Bukhari # 3302, Muslim # 181, Musnad Ahmad # 12580, Urdu version published by Maktaba Rahmaniyyah).
Both these areas are in Saudi Arabia and not Iraq.
5. The Prophet (Peace be upon him) pointed towards "EAST" (Bukhari # 3511, Muslim # 7292 and others). This pointing could never be towards Iraq as Iraq is towards Northern side of Madina not east.
6. It is proven from Sahih Marfu hadith that the Prophet prayed for Iraq (Mu'jam at Tabrani as Sagheer # 273. Hadith is Authentic).
Whereas The Prophet totally refused to pray for Najd.
Hence proven that Najd cannot be Iraq.
7. The narrations which mention Iraq are thus Shadh (odd) as they contradict above points.
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Posted by A.Ibrahim
(Edited by ADHM)
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