Any scholar from the past or present does not matter how big their name (pir shaykh al sheikh ibn this ibn that so and so...)
Who made a blunder spoke and wrote falsely or uttered untruth knowingly wrote and said anything against Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jamaah (Sunni Aqidah) should be Refuted and Exposed without any Hesitation.
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Allama Muhammad Umar Icharwi (d. 1971CE)
(Father of Allama Muhammad Abdul Wahab Siddiqi (d.1994CE) Here
This is from Mawlana Umar Ichrawi Here
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abu Hasan (Here) reply:
it is absurd. jahalat. and explicitly out of ahl al-sunnah. it appears this author does not know basic aqidah of islam. practically, contradicts every tafsir and aqidah text of sunnis.whoever wrote those lines about is ignorant of arabic, tafsir and kalam.
this is blatantly against the aqidah of ahl al-sunnah; and worse than the salafi tajsim. the salafi says that Allah is in the 'heavens'. this author goes further and says, Allah is also present in the earth - upending every explanation of hadith jariyah!
shocking to the say the least. i read various pages prior to and after this page, and i regret to inform that the author is immensely ignorant of the tafsir of the qur'an. the level of ignorance is stupendous.
this author repeatedly tries to prove that 'Allah ta'ala is present in the earth "bi'dh-dhaat". and presents umpteen 'evidences' which are actually, meant to indicate figurative nearness.
astaghfirullah.
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** i am aware that he is some big name - but we are sunnis, not deobandis. prima facie, that is dangerous aqidah and should be called out without hesitation.
Allah ta'ala is free from space and time. all those verses that translate to nearness, or 'being along with' do not indicate physical proximity or physical presence. rather His being present means that His Knowledge and His Power encompass the heavens and the earth.
wa ma alayna illa'l balagh.
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Noori (SM) said: He rahimahullah definitely used very poor wording but he doesn't mean that, on the pages before, and after the clearly denies this notion. He is refuting wahabi aqidah of Allah Tala's being on Arsh which will entail having body and distance; so, how come he can affirm His Subhanu wa Ta'ala being within skies and on earth, while the Arsh is bigger than the skies and earth. We cannot take it as literal, what is misleading is the usage of "bi'dh-dhaat", but he really doesn't mean physical presence, this is very obvious from his other statements.
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imam abu manSur maturidi in the tafsir of the verse says:
[imam maturidi:] this is muHal [impossible] for many reasons:
imam maturidi then presents four reasons that analyse the sentence structure and usage to prove that muqatil's interpretation is incorrect and that is muHal.
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muqatil was a famous mufassir, but has been criticised for being a mushabbih - bearing anthropomorphic beliefs.
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in siyar a'alam al-nubala, dhahabi quotes imam azam thus:
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the astute reader will notice that even muqatil's anthropomorphic descriptions were concerning attributes and in this case he simply said "the communication issued from the light said: i am Allah". even HE did not insist that Allah ta'ala was present on the earth bi'dh dhat - with His Essence.
al iyadhu billah.
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jahil e mutlaq.
it is with this pathetic jahl that the pipsqueak seeks to fault kanz. hah. gireyban mein jhank kar dekho.
if this is gangohi's statement - it is clear. gangohi thanawi sab buniyadi aqaiyid se jaahil the.
tuff hai is ilmi liyaqat par. no wonder they held strange beliefs.
zameel, will now come out of the woodworks and try to prove black as white.
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ha ha. i reached 7.56 where he elucidates asharr-fiyli thanawi's "ulum". what a travesty!
not surprised because this knowledge is noor and devbandis are deprived of nur.
you can witness it yourself in this video!
even a basic concept is befuddled and thanawi - as is the wont of devbandis - converts 'dhat' to 'jism' and this lot thinks it is a clever thing.
that is according to thanawi: "people think that by dhat, it means the 'jism' of Allah is in every place" - while the speaker marvels at thanawi's explanation, i marvel at the skill of using multiple fallacies: burning the strawman and throwing a red herring at the same time.
who said that by dhat it means 'jism' of Allah? (al iyadhu billah)?
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when you say that dhat is *in every place* are you not saying that the dhat exists in a place and that entails rest of the objections?
simply told in bad' al-amali: "wa dhatan an jihati's sitti khaali" kicks thanawi's smart-alecky nukta into the dustbin of heresy and kufr where it belongs.
laa Hawla wa laa quwwata illa billah.
devbandiyo! ab to hosh mein aao. follow someone who KNOWS his kalam (i.e. alahazrat imam ahmad rida khan - for instance read his 'qawariy al-qahhar' / zarb e qahhari and burn in envy for the command he has on the subject which your entire gang of "akabirs" can't hold a candle to) or keep following a jahil like thanawi whose basic aqidah is shaky.
no wonder, they couldn't wrap their pathetic heads about a simple thing as: "qudrat on mumkinaat; precludes muhalaat".
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while the anthropomorphist wahabi says: "on the arsh" - these morons believe that Allah is "on arsh as well as every where".
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afsos. the arabic of thanawi again ends with self-contradictory: "he is free from being in ANY makaan/place!"
makaan se bhi paak hai, magar biz zaat makaan mein hai. the only thing to add to anything is a the magic word: "bilaa kayf". you can even say that this devbandi's god resides in the idol "bilaa kayf". al-iyadhu billah.
تعالى الله علوا كبيرا
nas'aluAllah al-aafiyah.
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amr's saying: "there is no place (makaan) or corner (gosha) such that the dhat (Essence) of Allah is not present in it" is a statement of disbelief. (kalimah e kufr) because by this statement the person establishes a place for Allah. [which is kufr]
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Translation:
Question:
1. Is Allah (Glory to Him) present everywhere (lit. every place)?
2. Is Allah (Glory to Him) present everywhere (lit. every place) at the same time?
3. Is Allah (glory to Him) present in every thing?
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Answer:
1. Indeed, yes. Allah taala is every place.
2. Indeed, yes. He is present in every place at the same time.
3. Allah ta'ala exists (or present / mawjud) in every thing.
All of this is proven from Quranic verses.
[end of fatwa from devband.]
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laa Hawla wa laa quwwata illa billah.
why do they not shut down their madrasa and go till the fields - at least, it will be of some benefit. the juhala are a prime example of "aamilatun naaSibatun"
their basic aqidah about Allah ta'ala is polytheistic and they have the temerity to accuse us of shirk for merely doing tawassul.
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where are the champions of devband. zameel and ibn adam should translate this in arabic (without khiyanah as is their nature and habit) and tell the arab scholars that this is the true aqidah of devband.
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the ahmaq and jahil who wrote that fatwa claims:
that is only Allah knows the manner in which He is upon the Arsh and how He is present everywhere (lit. every place). we cannot understand the quiddity or the reality of that. Allah being present on arsh and is present everywhere at the same time - we must only believe in this; we must not attempt to understand its reality.
where the mufassirin said: only Allah knows the real meaning of "istiwa ala arsh".
the jahil converted it to: "only Allah knows the MANNER in which He is UPON the arsh and everywhere at the same time" and for a good measure added "and everywhere at the same time".
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this is the pathetic level of their understanding and they embark upon criticising kanz al iyman.
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(Edited by ADHM)
