Library Chat #14:
On the Najdī Dawah
(and the Issue of Istighātha)
Shaykh Dr. Yasir Qadhi
Note: This video consists of four parts all related to the same topic!
Part One: My Journey Part Two: The Paganism of the Quraysh Part Three: Aspects of Najdī History Part Four: Non-Najdī Views & Conclusion
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03:50 Nature of Video; not a refutation or defence, rather an explanation of trajectory 06:00 Context behind video; the recent fatwa about calling the dead 07:30 Overview of sections of this video 08:40 YQ’s history of affiliation to Najdi movement 09:33 YQ's time at Madinah University 12:10 YQ's pro-najdi books 13:58 Style of preaching after graduation 14:54 How YQ moved away from the Najdi movements. The doubts 18:00 Majority vs Minority on this issue 19:47 The appealing notion; Najdis on Shirk 20:49 Apparent parallels between theory and reality 21:50 Mainstream spectrum of opinions 22:57 Confrontations about Shirk 23:57 Bin Bayyah's response 26:00 Final Catalyst and last straw to moving away from the movement 27:08 with the Mainstream 28:10 Similarity between ISIS and 1st wave Najdi Dawah 30:00 Refutation Culture biases 32:13 Delinking himself from the Dawah psychologically; letting go of biases 33:21 Leaving AlMaghrib 34:20 Academia did not shape this view 35:10 This view was not influenced by Shaykh Hatim Awni 37:37 Students have right to know why i left movement 38:37 awareness of counterarguments. Do not rehash 39:10 anymosity towards...? 41:08 Complexities in dealing with theological models 43:10 Summary of Points of Discussion: MiAW's Misunderstandings, Repercussions of this , Pre-najdi norms 46:49 Najdi view is atypical 47:34 “MiAW misunderstood the Paganism of Quraysh” 48:19 Shirk worse now? 49:00 A reference to Sultan Umayree vs Hatim Awnee 49:29 The Najdi notion of Shirk of Quraysh 50:35 Separating Ruboobiyyah from Uluhiyyah. Concept of Supreme God and semi independent minigods. 53:44 Reality of Quraysh's belief 54:24 Textual evidences for their deficiencies in Tawheed Ruboobiyyah Ayah of Fussilat, Hadeeth of Ibn Masood, Ayah of Israa, Ayah of Yaaseen, Ayah of Anbiyaa, Ayah of Ankaboot, Ayah of Zumar, Story of Dimaam, Ayah of Anaam, Ayah of Baqarah, another Ayah of Anbiyah 54:49 Thinking God is aloof 56:36 Understanding the Pagan's Talbiyah and partnership 58:04 Quraysh affirming dominions for other than Allah (Ayah of Israa) 59:15 phrasing of the Quran shows nature of shirk 01:00:11 Independent help 01:01:56 miAW took some verses of affirmation and ignored others of negation. 01:03:10 Pagan's threatening with their 'minigods' 01:05:30 how Shirk of love occurs. Najdis struggling with a definition 01:08:18 Notion of "minigods challenging the supreme god" 01:09:20 Conclusion: Claim of their perfection of Ruboobiyyah is false 01:10:37 reading all texts through one lens 01:11:30 Ayah of Muminoon shows reality of their paganism. Concept of demigods Incorrect derivation : affirmation of supreme rububiyyah negates all forms of ruboobiyyah from others 01:15:49 Book recommendation about nature of paganism. Adi ibn Hatim's belief 01:18:20 miAW's false construction allowed him to compare the Quraysh's shirk to the mistakes found at graves 01:19:25 Ayah of Fatir 01:21:18 clarification of main evidences Najdis use. Ayah of Yunus and Zumar. 01:22:57 Not merely intermediaries 01:24:20 spectrum of rulings for asking someone for something Examples and scenarios showing decisive factor in what counts as Shirk and not shirk in actions: Sahaba’s Charity, Isa giving life to dead 01:40:19 Mistake but may not be shirk. What makes the mistake shirk 01:42:20 Irony about intention 01:44:10 Benefit from Hadith of Sahabi asking companionship in Jannah 01:45:10 Why its still a mistake and haram 01:46:44 How do we understand which Duas are Shirk? 01:49:10 Democratisation of knowledge 01:50:40 Romanticised idea about the movement 01:51:37 Accessing opposing books 01:52:50 MiAW’s brother’s book refuting him. Reading it critically then objectively 01:55:02 link with fanaticism. Problem with view is their position with those who differ with their view 01:58:00 reading an extract from the book; criticising the takfeer 02:00:54 Some scholars (incl Hanbali) who said MiAW misunderstood 02:03:10 extract from Durar Saniyyah; no one knew this theology 02:05:39 Takfeer without Uzr bilJahl. Theory vs Practice Forced Confessions of Scholars 02:15:00 Takfeer of Ottoman Empire 02:16:35 Assassination of Ibn Mu’ammar after Jumuah in the Masjid 02:20:25 Dangerous repercussions of this theology 02:22:00 Backlash to fatwa Threats and requests of execution 02:25:03 What delayed YQ's departure from the movement 02:26:49 Inevitable result of Fanaticism is Prioritising refutations 02:30:00 "Modern Salafism=Madkhalism" Reputation of movement. Issue isn't the akhlaq or lack of wisdom. 02:31:57 Harshness results from... 02:34:27 Message to critics 02:35:48 Dua for critics 02:36:45 Pre-Najdi Scholarship differing with Najdi views 02:39:21 Different waves of Najdism 02:39:55 Issue with Uzr bil Jahl position 02:41:00 Issues not as they're made to seem by Najdis 02:42:14 Differences between Najdism and Hanabila Qadi Abu Yala, Mar'i alKarmi, Ibn Badran 02:45:20 Ibn Taymiyyah's isn't pro-najdi on this issue Story with his adversaries. A nuanced quote from him. 02:50:00 Ibn Taymiyyah with alBakri. How he dealt with him. 02:52:01 Contrast between Ibn Taymiyyah and MiAW 02:53:00 EYE-OPENING extract from Ibn Taymiyyah's Iqtidaa alSiraat alMustaqeem. 03:03:03 Studying history to know context 03:05:00 Summary of the issues 03:07:18 Effect of Najdism on communities 03:09:36 Ibn Taymiyyah's Ijmaa? 03:11:20 Appreciation of adab between Umayree and Awnee in their discussion on this issue . Umayree has good (but undecisive) points, requiring a response 03:12:06 More videos from YQ on this topic? 03:14:07 YQ not bad-mouthing his senior scholars or Madinah University YQ with Ibn Baz, Uthaymeen, Jibreen Difficulties in moving on 03:20:58 what YQ now believes about sects 03:21:25 what YQ ascribes to 03:22:41 Message to critics 03:23:30 Who are upon khayr 03:25:28 Humble suggestion to refuters
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