Thursday, 24 January 2013

The Chains of Narration for Ahaadeeth are Preserved by the Ash'ari Scholars


The Chains of Narration for Ahaadeeth are Preserved by the Ash'ari Scholars

One of the most popular Wahhabi/Pseudo-Salafi website, dedicated to the science of the hadeeth (ulûm al hadîth) which reunites all the Wahhabi/Pseudo-Salafi students and teachers around the world.


^These Wahhabi/Pseudo-Salafi scholars did all that, which they were capable of doing to find “onehadeeth, out of a million ahadeeth, which doesn't have an Ash'ari or a Sufi in its chain of narration (Sanad).


But to their disappointment, they were incapable of doing so.

On the contrary, they did manage to find “one hadeeth” which defeats the above challenge, only then to see aSufischolar stepping forward and refuting their claim.


Thread here: http://www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vb/showthread.php?t=5621

And we can see at the end of the discussion an honest member, أبو الحسين بن بنان, who claims in message #43, that:

after much effort and many search, they are forced to admit that all chains of transmission go through Sufi and Ash'ari scholars”… Here is his message:

الإخوة الكرام ... من اطلاعي عبر السنوات وصلتُ إلى قناعة أنه لا يوجد إسناد يخلو من الأوصاف التي يبحث الإخوة عن سندٍ يخلو منها ... وبعد قراءتي لما ساقه إخواننا من أول هذا الموضوع لم تتغيّر قناعتي، فأرجو أن نضع فيما يأتي إسناداً حديثياً واحداً محرَّراً خالياً لعله يكون كسراً لتلك الحال المطّردة ... والله المستعان

And if you look at the message #38, you can see a member who wonders as to how the whole religion (aqida, fiqh, etc.) could have been transmitted by « ahl al bida » (people of innovation, Ash'aris and Sufi in this instance).

He even say that the Book of Allah, the Holy Qur'an, we received it from the Ash'ari and Sufi and mufawwid !

And he wonders how people of perversion would have been reliable in transmission of religion?!

La hawla wa la quwatta illa billah !

If that is not ungratefulness, then what is?

Here is a part of his message (#38) :

ولابد أن نبحث عن سند صحيح خالياً ممن قد بين شيخ الإسلام أنهم أهل بدعة والبدعة لا تخرج عن كونها مفسقة أو مكفرة فكيف نتلقى ديننا فقه وعقيدة عن أهل البدع فهذا لايجوز ثم لابد من سند للتلقي يكون متواتر قطعي فلا يعقل أن لانجد سند في ديننا ليس فيه أهل بدعة ولا يعقل أن نتلقى جميع دين الإسلام بطرق ظنية حتى في القرآن الكريم كلام ربنا عز وجل نتلقاه عن اشعرية أوصوفية أو مفوضة فكيف كان أهل الفسق في يوم من الأيام أمناء على نقل الشريعة؟

We would have wished this brother to take the problem on the other side.

It is inconceivable as to how the whole Ummah is upon falsehood and misguidance, as opposed to the righteous path of the “pious predecessorshim and his sect are upon. ?

Our Messenger sallallâhu alayhi wa sallam told us to “stick with the majority” in case of divergence (which is clearly The Ash'aris and Maturidis)

And also Allah says in the Qur’an :
( Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian) (Surat al Hijr -15-, verse 9)

Is it possible that Allah would have chosen Ahl al Bid’a wa dalâl (people of innovation and error = still understand Ashari and Sufi) to preserve and transmit His book?

It reminds us of the khawârij when they thought to have a better comprehension of the Quran than Ali (Radiallaahu 'Anhu) and his companions!

Or Shi'a who say that Allah chose threekuffar and munaafiqeen” to be successors of Prophet Muhammad Salallaahu 'Alayhi Wa Sallam.

(Astaghfirullah!)


To conclude, here is a text from Shaykh al Azharî -hafidahullah- which we can summarise with the following words:

If you are looking among the different groups of Islam like :

Mu’tazila, Ibadi, Zaydi, Imami, etc we won’t find any place for them in prophetic legacy, or perhaps just in a few things…

And if you look at Ahl as Sunnah (the Ashâ’ira and Maturidiyya) you will see THEM CARRYING ALL THE PROPHETIC LEGACY, ALL THE SUNNAH AND QURAN.

THEY ARE the transmitters of Al Bukhari, al Muslim, Abi Dawoud, Tirmidhi, Ibn Majjah, the Muwatta’a of Malik and the Ahmed’s Musnad, etc… and you will never find a chain of narration for a single hadeeth that doesn't have an Ash'ari or Maturidi in it. Whereas we can find many many chain of narration which are with ONLY Ash'ari Scholars.

THEY ARE ALSO carrying the commentary of books of hadeeth… Commentators of Al Boukhari like el Karmani, Ibn Battale, Ibn El Arabi, Ibn El Tyn, Ibn Hajar al Asqalânî….

THEY ARE ALSO carrying the commentary of Muslim, like al Nawawi, Îyad, al Qurtubi and al Sanoussi…

THEY ARE the commentators, they are carrying the chains of transmission of all theses books

THEY ARE ALSO carrying the different readings (qira’âte) of the Quran and its tafassir (exegesis)

ANYONE who reads in « Hafs » on this earth see his chain of transmission carried by el Mazahi, el Asqati, al Shabroumalissi, Abdurahmane el Yamani, el Nasser el Tablawi and Sheikh al Islam Zakariya al Ansari, and all of them are Ashari….

THEY ARE ALSO the linguists, and authors of dictionaries like al Jawhari, al Fayrouz Abadi, al Fayoumi et al Zoubaydi.

YOU WILL ALSO SEE that the maliki jusrists are Ashari, as the Shafi’i and few Hanbali. For the Hanafi they are Maturidi.

Arabic text :

ولا داعي لأن أتكلم عن فضائل الإسناد ومكانته وجلالته ، وهو من علامات أهل السنة وخصائصهم ، وفي أثناء الجوابات الأشعرية قلت الكلمة التالية أوجهها لهؤلاء الحشوية :

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فهؤلاء ( المعتزلة ) ليس عندهم من إرث النبي شيء فكلهم أبى الاحتجاج بالسنة ورفضها فلم يعرف عنهم أنهم نقلة السنة ورواة الآثار وفقهائها وشراحها !! وهؤلاء ( الإباضية ) يزعمون أنهم ورثة النبي وليس عندهم من إرثه شيء إلا كتاب واحد !! لا يعرف من كتبه ولا متى مات ولا من روى عنه وليس فيه من العلم شيء يذكر !! وهؤلاء ( الزيدية ) مثلهم لا يملكون من السنة كتبا فهم على كتبنا يقتاتون وإليها يرجعون ولى أئمتنا يعتمدون ويعولون ، وهؤلاء ( الإمامية ) لا تجد عندهم عن أصحاب رسول الله سنة ولا أثر فهم لهم أعداء يكفرونهم ويبغضونهم فليسوا لهم بورثة .

فإذا نظرت إلى ( أهل السنة الأشاعرة والماتريدية ) رأيتهم هم حملة إرث النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم فهم رواة البخاري ومسلم وأبي داود والترمذي والنسائي وابن ماجه وموطأ مالك برواياته ومسند أحمد ومعاجم الطبراني وسنن الدارقطني وسعيدابن منصور وصحيح ابن خزيمة وصحيح ابن حبان ومسند الطيالسي وأبي عوانة والدارمي والبزار وأبي يعلى وووووووووووووووووووووو كتب لا تعد ولا تحصى في السنة ورأيتهم هم الرواة لها ، ولا تجد سندا يصلك بكتاب منها إلا وهم رواته ، وتجدهم هم شراح كتب السنة فشراح البخاري كالكرماني وابن بطال وابن العربي وابن التين ابن حجر والعيني والقسطلاني وووو وشراح مسلم كالنووي وعياض والقرطبي والأبي والسنوسي ووووو وهكذا وجدتهم هم الرواة والشراح وهم المسندون لهذه الكتب وحملة إسنادها وهم رواة القرآن الكريم بقراءاته وشروحها وكل من يقرأ برواية حفص عن عاصم على وجه الأرض فلا بد وأن يمر سنده في القرآن بالمزاحي والأسقاطي والشبراملسي وعبدالرحمن اليمني والناصر الطبلاوي وشيخ الإسلام زكريا الأننصاري هؤلاء كلهم أشاعرة ووووو وهم النحاة ومؤلفو المعاجم كالجوهري وابن منظور والفيروزآبادي والفيومي والزبيدي وووو.... ووجدت فقهاء المالكية أشاعرة وفقهاء الشافعية كذلك وفضلاء الحنابلة كذلك ثم وجدت الأحناف كلهم ماتريدية وكتب الحديث عندهم في الهند والباكستان والأفغان والبنغال والترك متدارسة ومحفوظة ومشروحة وكذلك الحالف في مصر والمغرب وإفريقيا كلها

[End of Shaykh Azhari's
text]

If you see in the history, Ashari and Sufi are the Mujahiddin (warrior), are the Shuhada (martyr). They gave freedom to many lands, we can quote "Constantinople" (القسطنطينية) by Muhammad al-Fatih (Sultan Mehmet II) who were Matouridi, Hanafi & Sufi Qadiri (also quoted in a famous hadith about the conquest of Constantinople), also al Aqsa (by Salaheddine al Ayyubi al Ashari). They gave their lives for Islâm and Knowlegde…

The Ummah for 95% have been Ashari / Maturidi and Sufi !

Example:

Forget Quran for one minute, forget Hadith one minute, just watch the HISTORY and THINK…

I would like to ask the Wahhabi/Pseudo-Salafi to STOP referring to ANY Ashari / Sufi to learn their religion, to STOP referring them to Ahl al Bid’a wa Dalâl, who made « error in aqida » like an Nawawi, Ibn Hajar al 'Asqalânî, al Ghazali, al Juwayni, al Haytami.

How can you take the most part of your knowledge from innovators and lost people??? 


It’s unthinkable…

Ashari are Ahl al Bid’a ?

Well ok! So forget ALL their books of fiqh, of aqida, of tafsir, of gammar, of idiom, of usul al fiqh, of history, if you have enough of scholars following the way of « salaf » as you define it, to learn your religion from them…

I would like to see what will be the final outcome!!!

They are Ahl al Bid’a in theory but when Wahhabi/Pseudo-Salafis need their books, they go running back to Ash'ari scholars like Imam an-Nawwawi, ibn Hajar al-Asqalaani, al-Bayhaqi, etc!

Last day I was reading a Wahhabi/Pseudo-Salafi fatwa about legality of nutmeg : Here
 , and who they quoted to support their claims?

Ibn Hajar al Haytami al Shafi’î al Ash’ari al Sufi… (they put in brackets to warn people that we were Ashari and Sufi). Without saying that he is opines for istighatha and other "shirk" according to them.

Why they need people of innovation who called towards shirk to prove their opinions?

It’s still like that… If you look at Wahhabi/Pseudo-Salafi fatawa, they are filled with Ash'ari and Sufi scholars… I just quoted this example but we can find many others and their books and websites are full of them.


So brothers and sisters, be proud of your heritage, be proud of your schol
ars which nobody on this earth can do without. Be proud of the Salafus Saaliheen which you follow who followed the Prophetic Legacy.

more info: Here 


(Edited by ADHM)



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Albani Admits that there's NO 'Salafi' Commentary on Bukhari



Albani admitted that there has never been a completely "salafi" commentary on sahih al Bukhari and al Nawawi and ibn Hajar were Asharis




Al-Albaani said:

Firstly, I don’t think this is what their objective is, and secondly, if their objective [by not quoting from these scholars or asking for Allaah’s Mercy for them] is a way of warning then I say:

These people [i.e., the ones who hold the views mentioned above of not asking for Allaah’s Mercy] who you just alluded to, do they read Fathul-Baari [i.e., the explanation of Sahih Bukhaari by Ibn Hajr al-Asqalaani] or not?

Whichever of the two answers we assume, then it is a mistake in relation to them. If it is said they do not read it, then where do they understand Sahih al-Bukhaari from, its explanation, its understanding, the differences of opinion, the terminology, [things related to the] hadith and so on …

They will not find, in the whole world, explanations of Sahih Bukhaari that are entirely Salafi.


They will not find a [totally] Salafi explanation of Sahih Bukhaari like we want, and even if they did it would only have the main points [and wouldn’t be as detailed as Fathul-Baari]. As for this ocean replete with comprehensive knowledge, which Allaah granted to the author of Fath [ul-Baari] they will not find what it contains in any of the books that have taken up the task of explaining Sahih Bukhaari.

Thus, they will lose out on a huge amount of knowledge. So if they mean or what they say includes, amongst the things they warn against, preventing people from benefitting from what this Imaam [i.e., Ibn Hajr] says, then they will lose out on knowledge whereas it is possible for them to gather between taking the benefit and repelling the harm which is what the scholars do.

In the [whole] world now, not a scholar after al-Asqalaani and al-Nawawi can be found, to this day, who can do without benefitting from both of their explanations–this one’s [i.e., Ibn Hajr al-Asqalaani’s] explanation of Bukhaari and that one’s [i.e., Imaam al-Nawawi’s] explanation of Muslim.

Yet along with that, when they [i.e., the scholars] take benefits from both of their books, they know that in many issues they were Ash’aris and were contrary to the methodology of the Salaf as-Saalih. So with their knowledge and not with ignorance they [i.e., the scholars] were able to take the knowledge which benefits them from these two books or their authors, and turn away from what would harm them and not benefit them....

Al-Hudaa wan-Noor, 665.


Source: Here


See how he claimed Nawawi and ibn Hajar were allegedly contrary to the methodology of the Salaf!

 We never heard this for hundreds of years until these revisionists came to the surface and attempted to put down such giants...

From Shaykh Abul Hasan


(Edited by ADHM)


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